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11-Sep-2001 07:35 PM
  Re: Terror from the sky
Neo
A lot of people will not sleep tonight...
[Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I]

12-Sep-2001 01:51 AM
 Re: Re: Terror from the sky
Tarasishe
A vam ne kazhetsa chto US mozhet eti vzryvy, krome konechno tysach tragediy i gora, pripodnesut US horoshyi urok, kak nehorosho bombit chuzhye strany, Iraq, Yugolavia, Kuveyt etc. Mozhet teper to oni poymut skoko eto gora prinosit ludam v stranah, v kotoryh oni "democratiyu" zashishayut!
Nu a voobshemto zhal chto etot mir takoy HEROVYI!!!!!
Later.
[Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I]

12-Sep-2001 06:03 AM
 Re: Re: Terror from the sky
proper



 


Is it real?.. Yeas, that is REAL!!!


Hello, people!


The thing that happened yesterday is terrible. How could I even imagine that
those planes would even crush into


the World Trade Center? Anyway, it was done perfectly and the guys made a
good job since even


the most sophisticated defence system of the US did not stop them... Actually,
when I heard the news I just smiled and


said something about a good joke. I said the same even when I went to CNN
site and read their reports... what a crap, ah?


I am sure - this is the biggest attack on the US ever... So, what do you
guys think about president Bush? I guess he got the


whole pot of shit... And he did not come to NY and DC to be with the people...
he is sitting somewhere and trying to save his ass..


Do you think this attack will undermine the america's strenth... and quite
a lot... Will they be able to recover?


 


I am sure 100% the America is in a big truoble, and now it will not have
such an influence as it had before...


 


 




[Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I]

12-Sep-2001 10:13 AM
 Re: Re: Terror from the sky
musliba
mne prosto interesno kak mojno bylo tak naryvatsa )
smelo, chto i govorit', prosto ulibayus' - uj prikol'nulis' ot dushi )
odno ploxo, chto dollar upadet i bol'shaya voznya nachnetsa, a eto nexorosho(
a s drugoi storony - komu schas legko i gde v mire spravedlivost?
a esli seriozno to slojno konechno poverit' i ochen' shokiruet smotret' novosti,
posmotrim odnako chto iz etogo vsego poluchitsa
wish you luck, see you
love,
vasha masha
[Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I]

12-Sep-2001 12:45 PM
 Re: Re: Terror from the sky
Tarasishe
MASHA!!! Da pri chem zdes $$$$, bizness i ves etot shit about influence!! TAM ZHE TYSACHI LUDEY ZAZHYVO POGREBENY!!!!! Da puskay vse rynki mira, stock exchangi i ves etot bullshit idet k chertu! LUDI, nevinnye ludi pomerli!!! MOya znakomaya, iz Toronto, v ponedelnik vecherom iz NYC priehala, a vo Vtornik utrom.... sami znayete!!! A boy-friend u neyo v WTC rabotayet!!! Nu i mozhete sebe predstavit yeyo vchereshnee sostoyaniye!!! Slava bogu chuvak uspel vyskochit posle pervogo vzryva, otdelalsa shokom i mnozhestvom porezov! NO VED NE VSE TAKIYE UDACHLIVYE! Vchera nachali podvodit kolichestvo zhertv. Tolka odna insurance company zayavila, chto u neyo bezvesti propalo 1200 rabotnikov!!!! A tam takih kompaniy v etom WTC desatki, esli ne sotni. A vy tut, dolar upadet, krizis nachnotsa! BULLSHIT!!!
[Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I]

12-Sep-2001 01:26 PM
 Re: Re: Terror from the sky
Neo
vecherom napishu po etomu povodu svoi komentarii... poka eche ne sozrel dlya etogo...

sechas mogu skazat' odno, eto vse namnogo serezney chem vsem nam sechas kajetsya.... delo ne v dollare... i daje ne v teh "not so lucky" kto ne uspel vuskochit'...

Andrey
[Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I]

13-Sep-2001 07:35 AM
 Re: Re: Terror from the sky
musliba
i wish more people in this world loved humanity as much as I do.
mne na samom dele ochen' bol'no znat' o tom chto desyatki tysyach lyudei prosto tak stanovyatsa jertvami upryamstva, gluposti i nenujnyx ambiciy lyudei, kotorye dumayut chto im vse pozvoleno. u menya podruga uchitsa vozle NY i ya ne mogu garantirovat' chto ee togda ne bylo ryadom, ya tak je kak naverno i my vse byla v shoke ot togo chto a uslishala v novostyax, snachala bylo slojno poverit', teper' prosto ochen' slojno predstavit'. no ya znayu chto nichem ne mogu pomoch etim lyudyam, krome kak pray for their sooner revival and for the souls of the dead. poetomu vse chto ostaetsa delat' mne eto volnovatsa o biznese i moix doxodax, kotorye ya sobirayus' napravit' v nujnoe delo, chtoby uvelichit' garmoniyu v etom mire, nachinaya z moei derjavy. no ya vse je uverena chto nichego v etom mire prosto tak ne byvaet. poetomu sorry, if i heart your feelings
love,
vasha masha
[Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I]

13-Sep-2001 08:16 PM
 Re: Re: Terror from the sky
Neo
privet vsem,

vot neskol'ko moih musley po povodu sluchivshegosya v shtatah. Srazu je Discaimer:
Vozmojno skazanoye mnoyu pokajetsya komuto neetichnum ili moje daje will hurt someones feelings.... Nothing personal and no offence, ya budu osnovuvat'sya vsego lish zakonami logiki i common sense... a logika kak izvestno ne zavisit ot nacional'nosti.

Pervoye, davayte kak v matematichskoy zadachi opredelim konstanty, toest' te fakty kotorue tochno izvestnu shto oni pravil'nu.


1) Sluchivsheyesya vuhodit za vse razumnue predely.

2) Sechas v mire yest' millionu lyudey kotorue raduyutsya sluchvshemusya.

3) Operaciya proishodila po sheme "disciplina+sinhronnost'+fanatizm". Bez somneniy etim rukovodil ochen' sereznuy strategicheskiy centr.

4) Bul broshen vuzov Amerike(miry?), kotoruy ona,amerika(mir?) prinyala/prinyali.


Neizvestnue: organizatory, celi, dal'neysheye razvitiye sobutiy.

Nu a teper' nam na pomoch' pridut metodu dedukcii, indukcii i drugaya purga kotoruyu uchili v shkole.

1) Itak, neordinarnost' terakta. Ni ya, ni tusyachi-millionu drugih lyudey ne poverili etomu... daje togda kogda videli kadru po televizoru. Proishedshe ne vmechalos' v soznanie, i esli bu ktoto pro takoe zagovoril do akta, ego otpravili bu v psihushku.
Iz etogo mojno predplojit' shto kogda sam akt bul fantasticheskim, to i ego prichinu/celi toje takie je. Poetomu vse versii doljnu but' prinyatu ko vnimaniyu.

2) Hirosima, Vyetnam, Indokitay, Yugoslaviya, Iran, Irak..... Amerika ochen' dolgo uchila ves' mir kak nado jit'. Pojaluy ni u odnoy stranu v mire net stolko vragov kak u ameriki.
naschet jalko amerikancev.... well... u menya drug chut' ne okazalsya tam v tot den', esli bu on pogib, ya bu o nem jalel bolshe chem o vseh ostalnuyh vmeste vzyatuh... why? because of human nature... mu vse vosprinimaem subyektivno...

3) I konyu ponyatno shto za vsem etim stoyala ogromneyshaya rabota po podgotovke. A dlya etogo nujno imet' sootvetstvuyuchie resursu i nehiluy mozgovoy centr...hotya bu dlya togo shtob dodumat'sya do takoy idei.
Niodna teroristichskaya organizaciya ne raspolagaet takimi sredstvami, krome saudovskogo princa Bin Ladena

Nu s etim razobralis', teper' poprobuem porabotat' v napravlenii organizator-celi-razvitiye sobutiy.

Organizator. Samoe bustroe mnenie naprashivaetsya samo soboy: arabskie ekstremisty.
Takova i oficial'naya versiya as for now.
V ee podderjku: Bin Laden govoril pro syurpriz amerike paru nedel' do etogo.
yakobu vechestvenue dokazatel'stva - uchebniki, pasporta.

No eto to shto mu hotim videt', ili to shto ktoto hochet shtob mu videli.
Smotrite sami:
teroristy "zabuli" svoi pasporta??? uchebniki lyotchiky-professionaly???
As for me, ktoto prosto perevodit strelki na arabov.

Bin Laden, vrag ameriki nomer odin. Da u nego buli resursy dlya etogo. No idya na eto on doljen bul ponimat' shto amerikosy ego dostanut i ispod zemli posle etogo. A ya ne dumayu shto on samoubiyca. Plyus, esli bu eto sdelal on, to kakoy smusl ob etom molchat'? raz sdelal - raskaji vsemu miru! Pust' znayut kakoytu krutoy! A sdelat' i molchat' ob etom i pryatat'sya ot amerikanskoy morskoy pehoty... no that doesn't make much sense..

Celi. Politika+den'gi.
Smotrim komu ot etogo budet vugoda. Konechno, kajduy komu ne len' postarayetsya zarabotat' na etom politishekiy (ili prostoy) kapital. Menya sechas dobivayut zyavleniya raznuh ukrainskih politikov.....
smotrim na posledstviya: neft' podskochila, dolar upal, zoloto podskochilo, amerika na grane ssory(voynu?) s arabskim mirom...

teper' smotrim komu eto vogodno: arabskie stranu (eksport nefti), Izrail(ssora ameriki s arabami), Evropa (ukreplenie evro), ktoto vnutri ameriki (kakieto razborki... vuplata strahovok..) i... vualya! Rossiya! (neft'+chechnya)

1) arabskie eksportery nefti - ne katit po poslednemu punkty (ssora ameriki s arabskim mirom)
2) Izrail bul bu ochen' rad possorit' amerikancev s arabami, kotorue uje nachali ohladevat' k svoemu proteje...
3) Evropa - maloveroyatno. Niodna evropeyskaya strana ne poshla bu na takoe. A kakihto obchih specslujb u EU netu
4) sami amerikosu... well... vryadli. Eto ne Rosiya. Tut tusyachi svoih bu ne ubili...
5) Rossiya... Mr. Putin? Podruvatel' domov? why not! u sebya je eti metodu oprobovanu!
Takim obrazom rosiya dostaet dopolnitelnue pribuli ot prodaji nefti + reshaet vse svoi chechnskie problemu! Posle etogo hot' i kovrovue bombandirovki! zapad i ne zaiknetsya...

Another issue... ponyatno, shto ideya eta radilas' ne v golove prostogo kamikadze... a kogoto, kto:
1) Ne zahochet zakonchit' svoyu jizn' kak te kamikadze.
2) I poetomu on doljen but' uveren shto eto soydet s ruk. V mire et' 2 stranu pered agresiey v kotorue Amerika bu 100 raz podumala nado li eto ye: eto Kitay i Rossiya.

heh! Kitay! interesno.... no sredi mnogochislenuh soboleznovaniy, ya ne slushal ni odnogo ot pravitel'stva Kitaya? Strange? Nigde on v novostyah n figuriruet.....

Dalshe, kak sprognozirovat' razvorot sobutiy dal'she. Tut est' 2 vozmojnuh sposoba.
1) amerikosu libo ne dokopayutsya ni do kogo, libo esli dokopayutsya to zahotyat krut' istinu. I togda naydut kozla otpucheniya (Bin Ladena) i v amerike nachnetsya "ohota na ved'm(arabov)" (vspomnite vzruv v Oklahoma-city)
2) Keep in mind kto sechas u vlasti. Bush mladshiy. Mogu vam tochno skazat' shto IQ u nego menshe chem u bolshinstva kto hodit na etot forum. Vpolne vozmojno shto u nego kompleks-.... (zabul nauchnoe nazvanie, no smusl v tom, shto eto kompleks detey izvestnuh lyudey, oni dumayut shto doljnu dobit'sya bolshe chem dobilis' ih znamenitue roditeli)
Shto esli nash George zahochet voyti v istoriyu ameriki prezidentom voinom, edakim zachitnikom civilizacii? I proslavitsya? Ego papasha bul bu dovolen!
Echo odno dokazatel'stvo v polzu takogo ishoda. kak izvestno v USA sechas ne samue luchie vremena. Ekonomicheskiy spad, recession... there is nothing much Bush can do about that.... a vot nadavat' komuto bambuley i tem samum podnyat' svoy reyting mojna! tem bolee metod uje oprobovan ego kolegoy (Putin+Chechnya)...
Blago i sovet bezopasnosti OOH, i senat pochti dali razreshenie, da i soyuznichki po al'yansu pomogut v sluchaye zavarushki...! Vuzov broshen - vuzov prinyat...

Mogu tochno skazat'.... nikogda mir ne bul tak blizok k 3 Mirovoy kak sechas...

Vot.. napisal... sudite sami, po bolshemu schoty eto vse ya napisal dlya sebya.. sistematiziroval svoi musli....

da, vot echo, you might find this interesting:

Century 1, Quatrain 87
Earth-shaking fire from the center of the earth.
Will cause the towers around the New City to shake,
Two great rocks for a long time will make war,
And then Arethusa will color a new river red.

Eti slova pripusuvayutsya Nostradamusu... mojete smeyat'sya, mojete net.... no ya sklonen k tomu shtobu verit' im... u menya est' svoi prichinu na eto.... a vu vspomnite pro extraordinarnost' proishedshego...
a vremya pokajet naskolko iz menya horoshiy Sherlok Holms:-)

Take care,
Andrey
[Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I]

14-Sep-2001 09:25 AM
 Re: Re: Terror from the sky
proper
Privet, bro!

Prochital tvoy message. Interesting thoughts! I have some too, and in addition, I saw a few flaws in your logic... would like to share them... but a bit alter... wait for my replpy ))

Pr.
[Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I]

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