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07-Feb-2001 01:32 AM |
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Neo |
Ujas??????????????????? Vu vidite v etom ujas?????
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07-Feb-2001 01:36 AM |
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Tarasishe |
Ya esli chesno chut matom teba ne kryl, chitaya tvoy post!!! chesno!!! Ty sho to zh eto VOYNI MLA ZAHOTEL??? Tozhe mne militarist hrebanov (ne v obidu skazano). Vooruzhennuyu borbu yemu davay! Da ya teba pervyi i pristrelu esli esho raz takoye skazhesh! Ty hot avtomat to v rukah derzhal hot raz? davay uzh bez etih extremalnyh VOORUZHONYH lozungov OK?
A vot ideya tvoyeho online analit whatever, mne nravitsa, chem smohu, pomohu, moy major tipa Mass Comm i TEle comm. Taras [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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07-Feb-2001 02:29 AM |
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Olesya |
Neo! You are very interesting guy! My major here, in the States is Communications/Journalism, so I can help in doing something with the newspaper you wanted to make. But I have no idea how to do that either. So if you need me--feel free to contact me. My e-mail is:
olesya_80@yahoo.com This is just in case... [ This message was edited by: Olesya on: 2-7-2001 03:26 ] [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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07-Feb-2001 03:10 AM |
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Neo |
Taras..
popustis'... nikakoy ya ne militarist... no podumay sam.. ved' nezavisimost' Ukraine nam dostalas' prosto tak.. nikto pod tanki ne lojilsya kak v Baltike... vot ... ona nam s neba upala!!!! A to shto daetsa prosto tak - kak pravilo ne cenitsya!!!! a vot esli bu popahali... togda da.. goroy bu za nee stoyali... ya ponimayu... kakaya tam sechas revolyuciya... but still.. there is hope... i vobche.. tu inogda pravilno muslish... a inogda takoe gonish... chego toko stoyat tvoi statement "tusyachi nichego ne sdelayut".... "raz vubrali prezidenta to nefog sho rupat'sya.." shto po tvoemu? vubrali prezidenta a on sho hochet to delaet???Mu j ego vubrali... Ya toje za nego golosoval... No narod vubral - narod i snimet... day bog... avtomat... obijaesh... daje patronu i snaryadu razbiral.. bula takaya durka odno vremya... koroche..... tu horoshiy paren'... pover' - kogda priedem rabotu hvatit i nam:-))) tak sho davay budem zakanchivat' eti vupadu drug protiv druga... da.. ya tut nemnojko palku peregibayu... no eto vse u menya sechas ot togo shto prosihodit na Ukraine.... sami ponimaete... poetomu esli ya obidel chito chustva - proshu procheniya... i echo proshu procheniya u vseh ukraincev za to shto pishu na ruskom... ya hochu shob menya ponimali vse.... a english uje za$&*l... tak sho davayte perestanem vuyasnyat' otnosheniya kto tut kto.... a prosto budem shtoto delat'... glyadish... shtoto i poluchitsya... a esli prosto sidet' to koneshno ono nihrena ne budet... takie vot pirogi... Andy P.S. politikoy ya nikogda ne interesovalsya... i ne schital sebya nikakim patriotom... no prosto tut doma takoe delaetsya.... nabolelo vse... skol'ko mojno... [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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07-Feb-2001 03:15 AM |
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Tarasishe |
>>Tarasiche.... ya tak dumayu tu echo neznakom s novumi reytingami Kuchmu... Nu to ya skaju.. on popal v pyaterku samuh zlostnuh vragov svobodu slova vseh vekov i narodov... miliciya prosto napadala na tipografii/redakcii/raznoschikov gazet..
Nu eto ty ZRA!!! Ya eto vse ludshe teba znayu! Ya tebe dazhe kuchu adresov mohu dat s info po etoy teme, ya research pisal. A+ esli komuto interesno poluchil. Vot tak to. Tarasishe. [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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07-Feb-2001 07:30 PM |
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AlikUS |
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"¬Á ¬á¬å¬Ò¬Ý¬Ú¬é¬ß¬à ¬á¬à¬Õ¬ä¬Ó¬Ö¬â¬Ø¬Õ¬Ñ¬ð ¬Ñ¬å¬ä¬Ö¬ß¬ä¬Ú¬é¬ß¬à¬ã¬ä¬î ¬Ù¬Ñ¬á¬Ú¬ã¬Ö¬Û. ¬Á ¬á¬à¬Õ ¬á¬â¬Ú¬ã¬ñ¬Ô¬à¬Û ¬á¬à¬Õ¬ä¬Ó¬Ö¬â¬Ø¬å ¬á¬â¬Ñ¬Ó¬Õ¬Ú¬Ó¬à¬ã¬ä¬î ¬â¬Ñ¬Ù¬Ô¬à¬Ó¬à¬â¬Ñ", - ¬ã¬Ü¬Ñ¬Ù¬Ñ¬Ý ¬´¬Ñ¬â¬Ñ¬ã ¬¹¬Ö¬â¬ß¬à¬Ó¬à¬Ý ¬Ó ¬Ú¬ß¬ä¬Ö¬â¬Ó¬î¬ð "¬µ¬Ü¬â¬Ñ¬Ú¬ß¬ã¬Ü¬à¬Û ¬á¬â¬Ñ¬Ó¬Õ¬Ö". ¬¦¬Ó¬Ô¬Ö¬ß¬Ú¬Û ¬¬¬Ñ¬ß¬Ö¬Ó¬ã¬Ü¬Ú¬Û, ¬¬¬Ú¬Ö¬Ó, ¬ã¬á¬Ö¬è¬Ú¬Ñ¬Ý¬î¬ß¬à ¬Õ¬Ý¬ñ ¬¢¬Ú-¬Ò¬Ú-¬ã¬Ú ¬²¬å¬ã¬ã¬Ü¬Ñ¬ñ ¬ã¬Ý¬å¬Ø¬Ò¬Ñ ¬¢¬Ú-¬Ò¬Ú-¬ã¬Ú So,people,now we have really bad situation....they began to manipulate UA ARMY!!!STRASHNO ZA NAROD...DA I NAZIONALISTY CHTO_TO BOYKO O SEBE ZAYAVLYAYUT>.STRASHNO... [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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echo neskol'ko komentariev..
sechas vse silovue strukturu SBU/MVS i drugie pod kuchmoy... Krome togo, stalo izvestno shto po vsey Ukraine deystvuyut nelegalnue brigadu kotorumi upravlyaet Kuchma. Ih rukami i proishodyat vse "neschastnue sluchai", etc... Eti brigadu sostoyat iz buvshih oficerov KGB. dalshe, sechas po vse strane razvorachivaetsya raznue provokacii... povulazilo vsyakoe svoloche naruju.. anarhistu i im podobnue... No eto prosto pereodetue banditu, oni putayustya sprovocirovat' stolknovenuya s opoziciey, i na osnovanii etogo vvesti chrezvuchaynoe polojenie v strane. Posle vcherashniy demonstraciy vlasti nachali prinimat' meru... Na uchastnikov opozicii prosto nochyu napadali i izbivali... postupila informaciya shto sechas v Kieve organizaovan otryad, chislenostyu v 1000 chelovek iz band kuchmu, on zamaskorovan pod kakuyuto partiyu... v realnoy obstanovke, dumayu armiya est' toy siloy kotoraya doljna skzat' to slovo... Ministr oboronu podderjivaet kuchmu, no "Spilka oficeriv Ukrainu" prisoedinilas' k opozicii... tak shto est' nadejdu.. a vot vam vsya istoriya. Dlya teh kto gazetu ne chitaet... ============= Thousands March in Kiev Over Political Crisis By PATRICK E. TYLER New York Times, 7 February 2001 Feb. 6 - Thousands of protesters waving Ukrainian flags and chanting, "Ukraine without Kuchma," streamed into Kiev today in a ostly peaceful protest march demanding the resignation of President Leonid D. Kuchma, who is struggling to overcome a deepening political crisis. The crowd, estimated at 5,500 to 8,000, tried to break through a police cordon around the presidential administration building but was turned away, witnesses said. Ukrainian television reported a number of scuffles among the protesters, the police and counterdemonstrators.The crisis is being fueled by the continuing release of recordings of Mr. Kuchma's private conversations with senior aides and political figures in which his voice is heard ordering the abduction of a prominent journalist, threatening a judge and discussing how to protect the head of one of Ukraine's largest energy companies after he had reportedly "put a hundred million, at least" into his "pocket." The demonstration today, as with those that blocked the center of the capital in December, signals a determined effort by opposition parties and their followers, many of them camped out in freezing temperatures. Western officials and Ukrainian political experts said they were unable to predict the course of events in one of Europe's largest countries. The United States and European states have made a major investment in Mr. Kuchma, a former manager of a Soviet missile factory, since he came to power nearly a decade ago. Ukrainian television reported tonight that the protesters began streaming into the capital at 8 a.m. from across the country. Some had marched for days from western cities, and they were joined by protesters in the capital who set up the tent city. They have promised to stay until Mr. Kuchma resigns. The event that set off the crisis was the disappearance in September of Georgy Gongadze, a journalist whose Internet news site, Ukrainskaya Pravda, is a frequent critic of the corruption that has plagued the country in Mr. Kuchma's two terms as president. After Mr. Gongadze's headless body was found in November, an opposition leader, Oleksandr Moroz, produced the first recordings in which Mr. Kuchma's voice can be heard ordering Interior Minister Yuri Kravchenko to "get rid" of Mr. Gongadze. A new batch of recordings was released last week that inflamed the controversy. On one of those recordings, Prosecutor General Mikhailo Potebenko reports a problem with a legal case against Sergei Salov, a lawyer in the Donetsk region who worked for the opposition in the parliamentary elections in 1999. Mr. Salov was charged with "spreading false information about the president" by handing out leaflets stating that Mr. Kuchma had died of excessive drinking. The judge hearing the case ruled that the charge should be changed to an "insult" against the president and that Mr. Kuchma should be called to testify. On the tape, Mr. Kuchma telephones Gov. Viktor F. Yanukovich of Donetsk and says the judge should be tortured. It is not clear what action, if any, was taken against the judge. In another recording, the head of the state tax administration, Mikhailo Azarov, reports that the chief of Naftohaz Ukrayiny, the state pipeline company, Igor Bakai, had been audited. "At a minimum, you put in your pocket a hundred million, at least," Mr. Azarov recounts from his conversation with Mr. Bakai. "I understand, of course, that I will not expose you. I give you two weeks, a month at maximum. Destroy all the papers." Mr. Kuchma replies, "Good," and says he had spoken to Mr. Bakai, telling him that he could not expect to be protected forever. Mr. Bakai resigned in the spring and is now a Parliament member. [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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Hey, ukrayintsi.. i osoblyvo Neo. Tse vzhe v Kyyevi, Lvovi, Dnipropetrovsku i t.d. Tse pochynayetsya. Vin i co. vynni vzhe tilky tomu, shcho: 1. Poshmatovane Tilo Georgiya Gongadze bulo znaydeno obezgolovlenym v Taraschi. 1.1 Bulo vyznano, shco pered smertyu nad Gongadze znuschaly's, zdyrayuchy shkiru z kincivok. 2. Prokuratura zatyagala spravu i proyavyla nekompetentnist' z identyfikaciyeyu tila. 3. Ideya pro 99.6% genetychnogo zvyazku ye absolyutno absurdnoyu. 4. Maty Georgiya Gongadze diznalas' pro vysnovky expertyzy til'ky z zalu VR. 5. Expertam z identyfikaciyi tila bulo "rekomendovano" lyagty v likarnyu za dopomogoyu slavnoyi miliciyi. 6. Plivka Moroza ye pravdyvoyu, a prokuratura, vin i co. tse ne vyznavaly. 7. Melnychenko perehovuyetsya za pravdu u Yevropi a na yogo imya vypysano order na aresht. 8. Pan Volkov, Surkis, Medvedchuk, frakciyi SDPU(o), NDP, Trudova Ukrayina, Agrarna partiya zatyshno sydyat' u parlamenti i spokiyno splyat' vnochi. 9. Pan Golovatyi buv krytykovanyi, yogo oficiyno vidizvano z Veneciyskoyi komisiyi ( vidizvano 5-ogo yurysta Yevropy za populyarnistyu + vice-presydenta ciyeyi komisiyi). 10. Leksyka zapysana na kasetah Melnychenka ne vidpovidaye rivnyu poserednyogo ukrayincya, ne kazhuchy vzhe pro presydenta. 11. My ye posmihovys'kom usiye Yevropy, a "vin" mozhe staty oficiyno "vorogom #6 svitovoyi presy". 12. "Yogo" ne spryimayut' za seryoznogo lidera ( zgadayte yogo vizyt do Nimechyny). 13. Nasha degradovana "parlamentska bilshist'" bula narodzhena vzhe mertvoyu. 14. Vybory 1998 buly provedeni za pryncypom : "zagnaly stado baraniv u potribni vorota"; a referendum bulo pidtrymano 100%+45% nashogo naselennya. 15. Uryad mozhe i bude efektyvnishe pracyuvaty z novym prezydentom ( Yushchenko rulezzzzzz). GDP growth: 6%. My perevyschyly spodivannya IMF na 3.5% - koly ce vy take shce bachyly. 16. Tymoshenko zyily.,a Dubyna- vice-premier. Hochete she argumenty? www.pravda.com.ua Cheers. Mozhete respond [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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