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08-Feb-2001 11:13 PM

Re: TO ALL UKRAINIANS!!!!! AND OTHER NATIONS!!!

Neo

by the way... journalist was killed for that project

www.pravda.com.ua

on svoey jiznyu zachitil pravo govorit' pravdu...
[Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I]

08-Feb-2001 11:32 PM

Re: TO ALL UKRAINIANS!!!!! AND OTHER NATIONS!!!

Tarasishe

Ya tut podumav, a mozhe des v Ineti ye zapysy toyi plivky? Ya b ne proty posluhaty! Yaksho htos shos znaye , davayte dilitsa!
Taras
[Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I]

08-Feb-2001 11:47 PM

Re: TO ALL UKRAINIANS!!!!! AND OTHER NATIONS!!!

Neo

of course! yest' zapisi!!!
prichem oni vse proshli ekspertizu v evrope...

i Kuchma prakticheski sam priznal eto...

dayu 2 versii:
ukrainian i english.
english dnya non-ukrainians
===========================
English-language translation of the tape released by Oleksandr Moroz allegedly
linking President Leonid Kuchma in the disappearance of journalist Georgy Gongadze:

Episode 1
- Hello.
- Hello.
- You give me this same one at Ukrainska Pravda and ... we will start to decide what to do
with him. He's simply gone too far already.
- Started a case.
- Wha-?
- Started a case... (undecipherable)
- Good
- (undecipherable)
- No, I don't necessarily need a case. ... Ukrainska Pravda, well, this is completely already,
blyad, isnolence. Bastard, blya. The Georgian, Georgian, blin.
- Gongadze, or what?
- Gongadze.
- Well, someone finances him...
- Well, he actively works with this, with Moroz, with Grani (Web site). I will on Saturday him...
with Matvienko.
- Maybe people's deputies here to court, let the lawyers bring him to court.
- This goes to the prosecutor, right?
- No, Let Kravchenko... (undecipherable)
- (undecipherable)
- It's just, blya, ... there is some kind of limit, son-of-a-bitch, blya. ...
- Deport him, bliat, to Georgia and throw him out there f*** him.
- Drive him out to Georgia and throw him there.
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Episode 2
- So that I don't forget, there's this one Gongadze...
- I think I heard this kind of surname.
- Well, bastard, blya, final limit
- Gongadze. He already came our way somewhere...
- Wha-?
- He passed by somewhere. Looking for him.
- That means, what he constantly writes in some kind of "Ukrainska some kind of Pravda", he
pushes it into the Internet, understand. Well who, someone finances him
- (undecipherable)
- But the main thing he needs to be pushed back. Volodya says the Chechens should steal him
and drive him to Chechnya to f*** himself and ask for a ransom.
- Eh, we'll just somewhere him...
- Eh, these sort of people (laughter) totally major...
- Don't spread anything.
- Well, and drive him out to Georgia, and that's it.
- Meaning, in the first place, will we be giving (official) permission, not permission, that head
of the rayon division..., oh, you remember, the one that in Chernihiv oblast said: "Let the
president pay you "
- Yeh-yeh-yeh.
- They've already released the vice head. They started a criminal case against him. Meaning
on 165 this is for official service violations, and 185. So I think that he's here. And this week
we'll him
- Yeh. Yeh. Let's
- We'll also show who to say what to.

Episode 3
- On Gongadze there is besides that that he works together with Moroz.
- For Moroz he's been writing there in his Grani still from the very summer. How does he
finance (?)...
- Well, this is the type of garbage. I wouldn't be surprised that with them there with the
socialists there are ties there. ... Well, we'll take care of things with them. I think this is...
- There are outlines. This is Medvechuk and Surkis?
- This is that there is a tie between them this is...
- No, that's how once...
- I remember this game near Kievskie Vedomosti (newspaper). Surkis, blya, why do we need a
Jew, blya.
- Come on, why do you need a Jew
- And now I read some of those same conversations of theirs
- Eh, it's he that posts them. That was there method then. And it still exists. They're creating
a problem there, later, as if, they go to a person and help and later it turns out that that
person is dependent on them. And it is in this way that they here... This is a big spectacle at
such a level, I don't know, maybe, national. They played it out and it made hits... Eh, this is
this kind of thing. ... And, this, maybe, is all.

Episode 4
- I would like to ask you about this kind of form. I mean to use, so that I don't forget.
- This Georgian.
- I'm, we're working.
- Meaning... -
- I'm telling you, drive him out, throw out. Give him to the Chechens. (undecipherable) and
then a ransom.
- We'll think it over. We're do it in such a way, so that
- Meaning drive him out, undress him, blya, leave him without his pants, let him sit there.
- I'd do it simply, blya, they told me about it today. We're learning the situation: where he's
walking, which ways he walks. We've got someone sitting there connected up. We have to
study it just a little bit, we'll do it. The team I have is a fighting one, such eagles, everything
you want, they'll do. Meaning this is the present.
- For some reason you're not saying anything about Gongadze?
- To stay quiet (undecipherable)
- Honest. Well I'm reporting to you. There we made somewhat of a mistake.
- There he's got a team headed by the last name they told me, blya.
- Meaning he wrote a complaint to the general prosecutor. Well, I think...
- Who.
- Him.
- I made a bit of a mistake here. Well now I think, why did I make a mistake. Now I'll tell you. I
went to the deputy head of running the city of Kyiv Opanasenko. I think that Opanasenko, I
think that the group, it's closed. So Opanasenko through his to get to the bottom of what kind
of machine this is and wrote Potobenko, that is, a complaint.
- Who, Opanasenko?
- No, Gongadze.- And here he gives the numbers that were destroyed a year ago. I am
changing the plan here a little because... I want to get rid of that Opanasenko. My doubts
were over when they reported to me all the way in Kirgizia (?) that Opanasenko is interested
in the numbers so I said wait, , so that it...
with the numbers I'll do it. I simply, so that it, I mean, so that it doesn't work out anywhere.
Well, He'll be here tomorrow. He'll sign that this could be like a settlement for such matters.
- Well, so that it doesn't go, because they are throwing dirt into Russia through the Internet.
You know, into the Internet through Russia.
- Clear.
- I'm not letting Gongadze out. Simply for us a question has arisen I also it... Are there indeed
already contacts... And there were... armed surveillance I want to study up on his contacts.
What it...
- To know if there isn't a team there. They named some kind of surnames there. They're
scribbling this trash
- There are three of them.
- We have them. We have them all.
- Well I want to start with him. Well and this... the general (prosecutor's office) will react.
There are no numbers, I don't know.
- And what connection the General (Prosecutor's Office) to Gongadze?
- Well their declaration is there. This is official.
- well, and so what
- the declaration is official.
- Well why does every sh** have to write to the general prosecutor,
- Leonid Danylovych...
- There you go just send it to the rayon prosecutor.
- I don't know what the prosecutor there will say. This is the prosecutor...
- I bid you all the best.

Episode 5
- Well, Leonid Danylovych, what's new?
- About Gongadze
- ...

Episode 6- How should I tell you... Kravchenko promised to take care of it
- How should I tell you (undecipherable) The Georgian embassy made an official announcement
and made an anonymous call which was in the embassy that the Moscow rayon needs to be
searched and Volkov is dealing with this matter, Kravchenko and... one can't place politics...
undermine it... in order to undermine... this is also not tolerable...
- The ambassador has to be summoned
- Me too... and make some kind of notation or warning, or have a conversation.
- A call has to be made... and get rid of him to hell this kind of ambassador, blin.
- (on the phone) Koval, you need to be removed. Were you taking care of things there with
the Georgian embassy?
- (answer) We will now start taking care of things
- And get him here, blya, Let him make a reply, otherwise I'll call Shevarnadze to call him back
the hell with him.
- Okay- And say, that I'll call Shevarnadze, to take him out the hell with him.
- okay, okay, I'm calling on him right now.

Episode 7
- Listen, now they just showed me newspapers, blyat, all these, blyat, that are published.
Well, Hrysha Omelchenko is continuing to put out a paper in Kremenchug (pause) Well, what
are you bullsh**ing. Eh no, right now the 15th of September he put out a paper. (pause) And
I'm telling you, September 15 put out a fresh newspaper. Svoboda (newpaper) blya, is being
published, and you're still about that again... Well there, well there, there are such caricatures
there, and also insults, blya totally on the president. (pause) So then you invite Yulia. F***
your mother, you invite Yulia, and ask: "dear one, what are you bitch blya doing? Do you want
for us to blya you blya completely or what." And say: "why are you financing Omelchenko, why
are you doing that-that." You don'y know the method of your job or what, how that's done all
over the world. So if they aren't one f***ing bit afraid of you. F*** your mother, well why are
you this way. Why should you be feared? It is our service that they are afraid of. ... It was I
who appointed you. So that's why let's go.

Episode 8
- Listening. And where are you looking. In Poltava oblast in Kremenchug this bastard
Omelchenko is publishing such a newspaper, blya, simply incredible. With caricatures, blya,
they're throwing dirt on the president with their publications. So therefore, the security
service and the prosecutor can't start a criminal case together. So there, these lawyers
looked at this, and say that there are grounds to start such a case. Where's the Service. Well
yes then why aren't they reporting now. They bring me this newspaper... Newspapers, blya
they deliver to me here, while the service doesn't report one f***ing thing. (pause) And that's
what's the most interesting. I'll look who participates there, in this same. All these
anti-presidential correspondents.
... Yeh, and that includes Korobova of Grani. F*** your mother, imagine, this bitch, blya, this
prostitute (who?) of newspapers into which he took her. ... That Gongadze, blya,
good-bye-good riddance.
- It's time with them all...
- The level of influence of the Verkhovna Rada is 4 percent, the level of influence of the
Cabinet of Ministers or the premier 0...
- On mass media?
- Well yeh.
- Understand, which it is counting on so that God forbid a finger isn't pointed at it
- ...
- Well, of course.
- ...

Episode 11
- Leonid Danilovych, I want to report. I think, that I wrestled out all of his structures
competely, yes. And now the team is muffling the matter. Meaning everything, it seems, we
took out which is his.
- The fund Zlahoda, yeh?
- everything is there, everything. I looked there.
- Well an aside from the newspaper Toavarish they also have this new newspaper?
- Leonid Danylovych, well, we will have all the structures. Well, and now that gang, that
distributed leaflets from Holovaty?
- Yeh.
- Meaning, the day before yesterday he ended up all the way in Sumy oblast, the one that
distributed. And they gave it to him there in such a way (laugher). And he yells: "It was
Holovaty that me " (laugher) And he came home, and there, meaning, the dacha was
occupied, and the door burned
- Whose?
- His (both laughing) Understood.
- ...
- And he distributed one or....
- We him... the sh** came out again with a new packet. That same day 15 cops... And he
was with 3 guards. Later he came out without anybody, they put him in a car. When they
went forward... "I won't anymore, this is Holovaty. Who's your chief? Who's your chief? I'll be
a witness. Well, to keep it short...
- ... (undecipherable) I have such a subdivision, their methods, they have no moral principles,
they have nothing. So that God forbid... So meaning they have nothing. So that simply means
me. I have a group and they're beginning to muffle. Well I with your permission will then talk
things over with Azarov.
- I have an example, that I should also participate.
- Azarov also has an example.
- Well, something could get mixed up for us. But we are continuing to work.
- Is it interesting with them?
- What could they have interesting there...

Editor's note: English-language grammatical accuracy has been sacrificed in this translation in
order to attempt to get across the tone of the original conversation.

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Åï³çîä 1

Êó÷ìà (Ðîçìîâëÿº ÷åðåç ïåðåãîâîðíèé ïðèñòð³é ç Ëèòâèíîì). Äîáðèé äåíü.
Ëèòâèí - Äîáðèé äåíü.
Êó÷ìà- ² òè ìåí³ äàâàé öå ñàìå, ïî "Óêðà¿íñüê³é Ïðàâä³" ... (ôðàçà
íåðîçá³ðëèâî). Òà áóäåì âèð³øóâàòè, øî ç íèì ðîáèòè. Â³í ïðîñòî àáàðçºë æå
æ.
Ëèòâèí - Ìåí³ ñïðàâó ïîòð³áíî.
Êó÷ìà- Ãà?
Ëèòâèí - Ñïðàâó çàòðåáóâàòè? ... (íåðîçá³ðëèâî)
Êó÷ìà- Õîðîøî.
Ëèòâèí - Ñïðàâó ... äºëàºì ïðÿìî â êîï³¿.
Êó÷ìà- Í³, ìåí³ ñïðàâà íå ïîòð³áíà... (âåäå ðîçìîâó ç íåâ³äîìèì ÷îëîâ³êîì) -
"Óêðà¿íñüêà Ïðàâäà", íó öå ïðîñòî âæå, áëÿ, îáîðçºë³. Ïîäîíîê, áëÿ. Ãðóç³í,
ãðóç³í.
Íåâ³äîìèé - Ãîíãàäçå?
Êó÷ìà- Ãîíãàäçå. Íó, êòî æå åãî ô³íàíñ³ðóºò?...
Íåâ³äîìèé- Íó, â³í àêòèâíî ñï³âïðàöþº ç öèì, ç Ìîðîçîì, ç "Ãðàíÿìè". ß â
ñóáîòó éîãî ... ç Ìàòâ³ºíêî.
Êó÷ìà- Â ñóä ìîæå, òóò íàðäåï, õàé áè þðèñòè ïîäàëè â ñóä. Öå æ äî
ïðîêóðàòóðè, äà?
Íåâ³äîìèé- Íºò, ïóñòü Êðàâ÷åíêî ñêàæåò íà ìºíÿ è ºùüî íà (íåçðîçóì³ëå
ñëîâî - Ãîðáàíººâà ÷è Êîìïàíººâà ) ³ Õàëàíäîâ³÷à.
Êó÷ìà- Ïðîñòî, áëÿ ... åñòü êàêàÿ-òî, ñóêà, áëÿ ... Äåïàðò³ðîâàòü éîãî, áëÿòü, â
Ãðóç³þ ³ âèê³íóòü òàì íà õóé.
Íåâ³äîìèé- Îòâºçò³ ºãî â Ãðóç³þ ³ ê³íóòü òàì.
Êó÷ìà - ×º÷ºíöåâ íàäî, ÷òîáè óêðàë³ ºãî ³ âèê³íóë³.

Åï³çîä 2

Êðàâ÷åíêî- ß, ùîñü ïð³çâèùå òàêå...
Êó÷ìà- Íó, ïîäîíîê, áëÿ âèñøåé ìºðè.
Êðàâ÷åíêî- Ãîíãàäçå. Â³í ó íàñ óæå äåñü ïðîõîäèâ...
Êó÷ìà- Ãà?
Êðàâ÷åíêî- Â³í ïðîõîäèâ äåñü. Ïîøóêàºìî.
Êó÷ìà- Çíà÷èòü, òå øî â³í ïèøå âåñü ÷àñ ó ÿêóñü "Óêðà¿íñüêó æ òàì ïðàâäó",
¿¿ â ²íòåðíåò øóðóº, ðîçóì³ºø? Íó õòî éîãî? Ô³íàíñóº õòîñü.
Êðàâ÷åíêî - (íåðîçá³ðëèâî). Ó ìåíå ëþäè ... (íåðîçá³ðëèâî, ìîæëèâî,
êîíòðîçâ³äêà?)
Êó÷ìà - À ãîëîâíå òðåáà éîãî, ÿ êàæó, íà çðàçîê, òàê Âîëîäÿ êàæå, òðåáà øîá
÷å÷åíö³ éîãî âêðàëè ³ âèâåçëè éîãî â ×å÷íþ íà õóé ³ âèêóï ïîïðîñèëè.
Êðàâ÷åíêî - Òà ìè éîãî äåñü ... ÿ âàì ñêàæó... Òà öå òàê³ ëþäè (ñì³ºòüñÿ)
êàï³òàëüí³ ... (íåðîçá³ðëèâî), íå ðîçòðîùèâ í³äå.
Êó÷ìà - Íó, à éîãî â Ãðóç³þ â³äâåçòè ³ òà é âñå.
Êðàâ÷åíêî - Çíà÷èòü, ïî-ïåðøå, äîðó÷åííÿ ÷è áóäåì äàâàòè, íå äîðó÷åííÿ,
ïî öüîìó íà÷àëüíèêó ðàéâ³ää³ëó..., íó, ïàì'ÿòàºòå, ùî â ×åðí³ã³âñüê³é îáëàñò³
êàçàâ: "Õàé âàì ïðåçèäåíò ïëàòå".
Êó÷ìà- Äà-äà-äà.
Êðàâ÷åíêî - Çàñòóïíèêà óæå îïóñòèëè, òàê. Íà íüîãî ïîðóøèëè êðèì³íàëüíó
ñïðàâó. Çíà÷èòü ïî 165-é, öå ñëóæáîâ³ ïîðóøåííÿ, òàê 187-à. Òàê, ùî ÿ
äóìàþ, ùî äåñü, íà ö³é íåä³ë³ ìè éîìó ïîêàæåìî.
Êó÷ìà - Äà-äà. Õàé.
Êðàâ÷åíêî - Òåæ ïîêàæåìî, êîìó ùî ãîâîðèòè.

Åï³çîä 3

Êó÷ìà- Ï³ä Ãîíãàäçåì º îêð³ì òîãî, ùî â³í ñï³âïðàöþº ç Ìîðîçîì, â³í æå äëÿ
Ìîðîçà òàì ïèøå â éîãî "Ãðàí³" ö³ ç ñàìîãî ë³òêó, ùî éîãî ô³íàíñóº
Áðîäñüêèé.
Êðàâ÷åíêî- Íó, öå òàêà ñêîòèíà, ùî ìîæå áóòè. ß íå çäèâóþñü, ÿêùî ó íèõ
òàì º ç ñîö³àë³ñòàìè çâ'ÿçêè òàì... Íó ìè ç íèì ðîçáåðåìîñü. ß äóìàþ, ùî öå
... ºñòü.
Êó÷ìà- À Áðîäñüêèé öå æ Ìåäâåä÷óê ³ Ñóðê³ñ? ×åðåç Ñóðê³ñà.
Êðàâ÷åíêî- Öå òå, ùî â íèõ çâ'ÿçîê ºñòü, öå æ...
Êó÷ìà- Í³, òàê ùàñ âîíè äðóç³, ñòîâ³äñîòêîâî! ß æ ïàì'ÿòàþ öþ ãðó á³ëÿ
"Êèåâñêèõ âåäîìîñòåé" Ñóðê³ñ, äà ÿ íà öüîãî, áëÿäü, æèäà, áëÿäü ... äîáðà.
À ùàñ ÿ ïî÷èòàë òàì ê³ëüêà ò³õ ñàìèõ ðîçìîâ ¿õí³õ.
Êðàâ÷åíêî- Òà íó, â³í æå ¿õ ³ ñòàâèòü. Â íèõ áóëà òîä³ òàêà ìåòîäèêà. Òà âîíà
é çàëèøàºòüñÿ. Âîíè ñòâîðþþòü òàì ïðîáëåìó, ïîò³ì âðîäº ÿê ³äóòü äî
ëþäèíè, äîïîìîãàþòü, à ïîò³ì ïîëó÷àºòüñÿ, ùî ëþäèíà ñòàº çàëåæíà. ² îöå
òàêèì ÷èíîì âîíà äåñü... Öå âåëèêèé ñïåêòàêëü íà òàê³é ïî÷â³, ìàáóòü,
íàö³îíàëüí³é ðîç³ãðóâàëè. ² âîíî ïîïàäàëîñÿ. Íó, öå òàêå ä³ëî... Íó, îöå,
ìàáóòü ...

Åï³çîä 4

Êó÷ìà- ß õîò³â ïîïðîñèòè âàñ ïðî îò òàêó ôîðìó. Íó, âèêîðèñòàòü, ùîá ÿ íå
çàáóâ. Ãîíãàäçå öåé.
Êðàâ÷åíêî - À ÿ, ìè ïðàöþºìî ïî íüîìó. Çíà÷èòü ...
Êó÷ìà- ß æ êàæó, âèâåç³òü éîãî, âèêèíüòå. Îääàéòå ÷å÷åíöàì. (íåðîçá³ðëèâî),
à òîä³ âèêóï.
Êðàâ÷åíêî- Ìè ïðîäóìàºìî. Ìè ñäºëàºì òàê, ÷òîá.
Êó÷ìà - Çíà÷èòü âèâåçòè éîãî, ðîçäÿãíóòü, áëÿ, áåç øòàí³â îñòàâèòü, õàé
ñèäèòü. ß á çðîáèâ ïðîñòî, áëÿ...
Êðàâ÷åíêî - Ñüîãîäí³ ìåí³ äîïîâ³äàëè. Ìè òàì äºëàºì òðîøêè, òðîøêè òðåáà
âèâ÷èòè, ìè çðîáèìî. Â ìåíå çàðàç êîìàíäà áîºâàÿ, îðëè òàê³º, ùî äåëàþò
âñå, ÷òî õî÷åø. Çíà÷³ò âîò òàêàÿ ñ³òóàö³ÿ.
Ëèòâèí - Ùîñü ÿ íå çðîçóì³â, ïî Ãîíãàäçå âè ïðîìîâ÷óºòå?
Êðàâ÷åíêî- Â³äâåðòî. Íó, ÿ âàì äîïîâ³äàþ. Òàì ìè òðîõè ïðîêîëîëèñÿ.
Êó÷ìà - Òàì ó íüîãî êîìàíäà, âî ãëàâå ÿêî¿ ñòî¿òü ïð³çâèùå òàì ìåí³ ñêàçàëè,
áëÿ.
Êðàâ÷åíêî - Çíà÷èòü, íàïèñàâ æàëîáó Ãåíåðàëüíîìó ïðîêóðîðó. Íó, ÿ
äóìàþ...
Êó÷ìà- Õòî?
Êðàâ÷åíêî - Â³í. Òðîøêè ÿ òóò ïðîêîëîâñÿ. Íó, ÿ òåïåð äóìàþ, ïî÷ºìó
ïðîêîëîëñÿ. Ùàñ äîïîâ³äàþ. ß âèéøîâ íà çàìíà÷àëüíèêà ïî îïåðàò³âíîé
ãîðîäà Ê³ºâà Îïàíàñåíêî. Äóìàþ, ÷òî Îïàíàñºíêî áóäºò íàì, ³ ÷òî òºïºðü ...
ãðóïà áèëà çàêðèòà. Òî Îïàíàñºíêî ÷åðºç ñâî¿õ ïî÷àë ïðîáèâàòü øî öå çà
ìàø³íè ³ íàï³ñàâ Ïîòåáåíüêó, çíà÷èòü, æàëîáó.
Êó÷ìà- Õòî? Îïàíàñºíêî?
Êðàâ÷åíêî- Íº, Ãîíãàäçå. Íó, òóò îí óêàçèâàºò íîìåðà, ÿê³ óí³÷òîæåíè ãîä
íàçàä. ß òðîøêè òóò òàêò³êó ìºíÿþ, ïîòîìó, ÷òî... ß õî÷ó óáðàòü åòîãî
Îïàíàñºíêî. Ó ìåíå çàêðàëñÿ ñóìí³â, êîëè ìåí³ äîïîâ³ëè àæ òóäà â Ê³ðã³ç³þ,
ùî Îïàíàñºíêî ³íòåðåñóºòüñÿ íîìåðàìè, òî ÿ ñêàçàâ: ï³äîæä³òü, ùîá îíî ...
Ïð³ºçæàþ, êîãäà æàëîáà ºñòü. Òàê ÷òî... ÿ ºãî ñäºëàþ. ß ñäºëàþ, Ëåîí³ä
Äàí³ëîâ³÷. ß ïðîñòî, ùîá âîíî çíà÷èòü, øîá âîíî í³äå íå ïîëó÷èëîñü. Íó, â³í
áóäå æàëîâàòüñÿ. Â³í òóò ïèøå, ùî öå ìîæå áóòü êàê ðàñ÷üîò íà ìî¿ ñïðàâè.
Òà òàêå.
Êó÷ìà- Íó, òóò ÿêîãî áðóäó âîíè êèäàþòü â Ðîñ³þ ÷åðåç ²íòåðíåò. Íó, â
²íòåðíåò ÷åðåç Ðîñ³þ. ßñíî.
Êðàâ÷åíêî- ß Ãîíãàäçå íå âèïóñêàþ. Ïðîñòî äëÿ ìåíå òåïåð ïèòàííÿ òåæ
âîíî ... ß òàì åê³ïàæ³ ... ºñòü êîíòàêòè ... ß òóäà ê³íóë íàðóæíîãî íàáëþäºí³ÿ.
ß õî÷ó ºãî êîíòàêòè ïîä³çó÷³òü. Øî âîíî...
Êó÷ìà- À Ãîíãàäçå ºñòü êîìàíäà? Êàçàëè ÿê³ñü òàì ïð³çâèùà. Öå ñòðî÷àòü
öåé áðóä. ¯õ òðè ÷ºëîâºêà.
Êðàâ÷åíêî- Ó ìºíÿ ºñòü îí³. Ó ìºíÿ âñº îí³ ºñòü. Íó, ÿ õî÷ó ç íüîãî ïî÷àòè.
Íó, îöå, ÿ õî÷ó ïîäèâèòèñÿ, ÿê Ãåíåðàëüíà â³äðåàãóº. Íîìåð³â íåìàº, òàì, ÷è
ÿ çíàþ. Íó, â³í òóò ïèøå ..., ùî öå ìîæå.
Êó÷ìà- Íó, à ïðè ÷ºì òóò Ãåíåðàëüíà äî Ãîíãàäçå?
Êðàâ÷åíêî- Íó º ¿õíÿ çàÿâà. Öå æ îô³éö³íî.
Êó÷ìà- Íó ³ øî?
Êðàâ÷åíêî- Çàÿâà æ îô³ö³éíà. Íó ÿ ïîäèâëþñÿ ÿê âîíè áóäóòü òåæ.
Êó÷ìà- Íó ÷îãî êàæäà ñðàíü äîëæíà ïèñàòü íà Ãåíåðàëüíîãî ïðîêóðîðà?
Êðàâ÷åíêî- Ëåîí³ä Äàíèëîâè÷...
Êó÷ìà- Âîí îòïðàâ³òü íà ðàéîííîãî ïðîêóðîðà
Êðàâ÷åíêî- ß æ íå çíàþ, ùî ïðîêóðàòóðà òàì ñêàæå. Öå æ ïðîêóðàòóðà... Õòî
â êîãî ãðîø³ ... (ñì³þòüñÿ). ß áàæàþ âñüîãî íàéêðàùîãî.
Êó÷ìà- Ñïàñ³áà.

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Êðàâ÷åíêî- Íó, Ëåîí³ä Äàí³ëîâè÷, øî íîâîãî, çíà÷èòü...
Êó÷ìà- Ãîíãàäçå êàê?
Êðàâ÷åíêî - Òî÷íî òàê æå ... (íåðîçá³ðëèâî). Ìè ñüîãîäí³ òàì ... âèäèâèëèñü.
Êó÷ìàÇà Ãîëîâàòèì äèâëÿòüñÿ?
Êðàâ÷åíêî - Òà äèâëÿòüñÿ. Íàéøëè éîãî äâ³ ñâÿç³. Çà íèì ñëºä³ì. ß õî÷ó éîãî
õëîïíóòü íà ... åò³õ. ß õî÷ó ºãî ïðîñòî â íàãëóþ õëîïíóòü. ß ïîäáðîøó
ñàìóþ õîðîøóþ áëÿäü. Ïîòîì... ÿ ñí³ìó åò³. ß äóìàþ - íå äüîðíºòñÿ.
(íåðîçá³ðëèâî). Ïðîñòî â³äºòü åòî îäíå, à òàê, ùîá...
Âñå òå, øî äîðó÷åíî, âñå ïðàöþº. Íó, ÿ äóìàþ, â òº÷ºí³º Ãîíãàäçå ïàðó
äíºé. Òàì áóäå âèäºðæàíî, ÿê ïîëó÷èòüñÿ, îäíîìó ðåæèñüîðó... ß òàì
ïîäèâèâñÿ éîãî ìàòåð³àëè ç ²íòåðíåòó ïîâèòÿãóâàí³. ªñòü òàêèé ªë³ñºº
[Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I]

08-Feb-2001 11:53 PM

Re: TO ALL UKRAINIANS!!!!! AND OTHER NATIONS!!!

rostyk

What concerns...

6. Plivka Moroza ye pravdyvoyu, a prokuratura, vin i co. tse ne vyznavaly..

My fault. Gen.prokuratura recognized that recordings are authentic. And, if to believe Golovatyi after his talk to president, "he" approved that fact as well.
+ Potebenko on vacations. People are dying. Ukraine is happy. Let's sing our songs, speak how important we are (so noone considers us and Poland cares about us more than we do), how abundant in resources we are (so schemes in energy sectors put all the villages in the total darkness) and let's vote for the first best who guarantees us peace, independence, blue-and-yellow flag ( etc.) and welfare in Europe on completely NO grounds.
[Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I]

09-Feb-2001 12:10 AM

Re: TO ALL UKRAINIANS!!!!! AND OTHER NATIONS!!!

Tarasishe

YA OSHALEVAYU!!!!!
http://www.pravda.com.ua/?0121-3-8
[Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I]

09-Feb-2001 12:23 AM

Re: TO ALL UKRAINIANS!!!!! AND OTHER NATIONS!!!

musliba

a meni s'ogodni moya kyivs'ka roommateka napysala, i meni zdayet'sya scho spravdi bagac'ko z togo scho nam rozpovidayut' ye kazochky. i sche vona skazala, cituyu:

"6-go lutogo v Kyieve vidnovylasia akciya "UKRAINA
BEZ KUCHMY", ya bula na Khreshatyku, specialno na pary ne pishla. te, sho tam
bulo, vrazylo mene do glybyny dushi: i za Kuchmu, i proty ludy vystupaly
ne za pereconannia. vsim bulo zaplocheno."

i ce na moyu dumku cilkom real'no. ya vvajayu scho bil'shist' tyx lyudei scho pishly v kyiv z usiyeyi ukrayiny ishly spravdi proty kuchmy, ale cya sytuaciya v politychnyx kolax prosto bisyt'.
[Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I]

09-Feb-2001 03:41 AM

Re: TO ALL UKRAINIANS!!!!! AND OTHER NATIONS!!!

Neo

bez bazara...

za kuchmu vsem libo platili libo admin metodami gnali...

naprimer - novoyavlenue monarhistu - kursantu MVS...

plyus - ya gdeto chital shto studentam platili po 20 grv shtobu oni shli na mitingi za Kuchmu...

nu i koneshno, siloy vseh vuganyali... naprimer v Krumu sognali okolo 10.000 "pro-kuchmovcev"... ne poydesh - s univera, rabotu vugonyat...

Andy
[Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I]

09-Feb-2001 04:15 AM

Re: TO ALL UKRAINIANS!!!!! AND OTHER NATIONS!!!

ivan

Zdorovo, rebyata!!!

VY j vrode presentation po svobode slova v Ukraine gotovili???
Prishlitr pojaluysta REsearch project i Presentation file

VSE prochitau... Interesno znat' chem jyvem ;-)

2dasend@usa.net

S blagodarnost'u,
Ivan (Political Science)
[Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I]

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