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05-Feb-2001 12:38 AM |
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Tarasishe |
FOR NEO,
Zdoroven'ki buly pane patroite!!! I choho ce vy takyi velykyi patriote po Rossiys'ki rozhutorylysa? HA? (Pacany i devchenki s Rossii, ne prinimat prededushuyu frazy kak obidu :-) OK?) Davay mozhe proyavymo sviy patriotyzm na dili, anu kozache po ukrayinski zabalakay :-) Sho ya tobi druzhe skazhu! Shuramy ty darma nazvav tyh hto tikaye s SNG! Ot skazhy chesno, nevzhe nirazu do tebe v tvoyu bashku dumka tuta zalyshytysa ne zalizalasa!!! Navit pisla toho yak ty dodomu dzvonyv i chuv holos bat;ka, chy mamy, yakyi kazav sho nema za sho kupyty hliba, chy yalynku na novyi rik??? Tiko ne treba krychaty shos na zrazok c'oho "Da ya da ya, sho vy, ya patriot, ya yak pryidu to vse dla Ukrainy zroblu, da ya hory perevernu itd. itp." Take v mene vrazhenna sklalosa chytayuchy tvoyi posty. Ty tverezo choloviche podumay- SHO TY ZMOZHESH ZROBYTY VDOMA!!! SHO TOBI 20-21 RICHNOMU PO SYLI ZROBYTY V UKRAINI??? Ty hoch na hvylynku dumav pro te sho ty NIHTO (ne obrazhaysa ale ce pravda, i ne pro tebe odnoho) v Ukraini, i sho TY navit razom zi MNOYU i bahatma tysachamy takyh yak my v Ukraini zrobyty realno nichoho ne zmozhesh, prynaimi she nayblyzhchyv 10-15 rokiv, POKY VSA CHERVONA I PEREMALOVANA PID DEMOKRATIV GYDOTA NE POVMYRAYE!!! Vsi ci tvoyi hasla na temu rozbudovy krayiny s seredyny krayiny-TUFTA, probachay. Ya by yiy navit nazvav she krutishe-VYIAVOM MAXYMALIZMU STARSHOHO PIDLITKOVOHO VIKU ;-) No offends dude! Ya vybachusa pered toboyu, i zaberu svoyi slova nazad tilky pisla toho yak ty meni REALNO zmozhesh dovesty sho ty, nash super patriote, zmozhesh zrobyty v Ukraini OK? A to vpryncypi krychaty vsi mozhut', i vsi krychat, a ot nihto chomus nichoho ne robyt. Yak shodo mene, to ya bezperechno yidu dodomu, pro ce y movy nema. I ne cherez te sho ya takyi velykyi radykalnyi patriot z Zahidnoyi Ukrainy, i ne cherez te sho ya svoimy nadzusyllamy zmozhy shos realne zrobyty dla Ukrainy!!! Ni, prosto meni tam vdoma podobaytsa, mene tam chekayut', i nema meni narazi choho tut robyty. Vidpovid yasna, chy mozhe detalnishe poyasnyty? She odyn comment, nazrazok-AMERYKA LAMAYE TILKY SLABKYH! Nu ce ty zahnav! Ty sho zh sebe sylnym vvazhayesh? Ty skazhy, ty bachyv tyh SLABKYH pacaniv i divchat, kotri tut nelehalno sydat, po 8-9 hodyn shodna pracuyut, z nih padayut, a ydut na robotu, i krim toho sho sobi na navchanna i prozhytta zaroblayut, she y dodomu kozhnoho misaca po $200-300 vidsylayut'. Ty z nymy hovoryv, ty z nymy zhyv? Z odnoho kazana kashu bez masa yiv (bez masa tomu, sho nema hroshey na tushnku za $2.50)? Ty yim hroshi pozychav pid nosom u pyanoho landlorda s musaramy, kotryi za toy rent vsu hatu hotovyi zaklasty? Ty buv u sudi koly sudyly takyih SLABKYH za te sho mashyna ne zareestrovana? I ty yih nasmilyvsa SLABKYMY nazvaty? Yab na tvoyemu misti dla pochatku pishov by na framing, siding chy roofing na morozi popracuvav 8 hodyn, a potim by kohos tak obrazhav. A teper ty meni rozkazhy yak ce zh ty tak heroichno Ameryci ne davav sebe zlomaty? Mozhe ty PIZZU perestov yisty, chy mozhe ty na yakomus classi vsim amerycancam rozpovidav yaka Ukraina velyka, mohutna, i procvitayucha krayina? A ni, znayu, tebe mabut dovho NIS prosylo tuta zalyshytysa, zvazhayuchy na tviy henialnyi rozum, i pomohty yim rozbuduvaty Ameryku she bishe, na sho ty rishuche vidpoviv-NI, na ukrainskiy movi. ;-) A pro PIZZAYIDIV I BAXOLUBIv UKRAINCIV-TY DARMA!!! Ty she zanadto malo prozhyv shoby tyh ludey zasudzhuvaty! Znovzh taky, podzvony batkam, i spytay tata, yak vin sebe pochuvaye koly ne mozhe rodyne elementanyh nayneobhidnishyh rechey distaty!!! Spytay takozh na sho vin hotovyi piyty shoby ti rechi dla vas distaty! Domovylysa? A do toho chaasu rot na zamok, i shuramy shoby ty bishe nikohe ne nazyvav!!!! Taras. P.S. Sho ty tam pysav pro SP? Mayu znayomyh kotri hotovi rozpochaty spravy z ukrainoyu! Pyshy yaksho hochesh. [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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05-Feb-2001 12:41 AM |
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Tarasishe |
Zdorovenki buly pananko Svetlana! Ty s Khmelnickoho? Ty Marinu znayesh v Butlere? ;-) Pozvoni, ona za toboy soskuchilasa! ;-)
Taras [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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05-Feb-2001 01:24 AM |
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Olesya |
Da, topic destvitelno very interesting!!! Ya ne znaiy hotela ya bu zdes ostatsya ili net, but this is not the point right now... I just wanted to ask all of you who want to do something in their native countries. Chto delat konkretno? da, ya hotela bu but poleznoy dlya svoei stranu, i ya bu OCHEN hotela chtob liydi v Ukraine imeli bu vse to zhe chto est zdes, in the States. No mne kazhetsya chto eto pochti nevozmozhno sdelat. Kazhdogo kto zahochet predprinyat kakyiy-to poputky pomoch---dyshat i ne daiyt nichego delat. eto na teorii vse krasivo, a v zhuzni---??? It's so complicated, guys! Ya prosto imeiy v vidy chto nado menyat vsiy sistemy, i tolko neskolko chelovek tyt ne pomogyt. I esche est odna zakonomernost: vse poka molodue--ochen deyatelnue, no potom oni prihodyat k vlasti, i stanovyatsya takimi zhe, kak i nashi proshlue "lideru". A ved mnogoe zavisit ot government system in the country. This is really sad! I was talking mostly about Ukraine (and from my prospective of seeing all this stuff), i don't know much about other "Soviet" countries. But I think all of these countires hav the same problem---government (you may not agree with me).
ok, guys, that was a little bit of politics. But i really want to know your oppinion what can we do practically. What do you think? [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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05-Feb-2001 01:59 AM |
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Olesya! Bylo by zhelanie, i vse poluchitsya! Ty govorish, chto vsya problema v lyudyax u vlasti, kotorye dushat iniziativu. No oni ne smogut zastavit' zamolchat vsex! Nikogda! Ved' nas , molodyx, deistvitel'no mnogo! A chto konkretno delat? Ne byt' passivnymi-eto samoe glavnoe!!!!!!! Sozdavat' svoi dvizheniya, organizatzii, partii, esli xotite i ne pozvolyat' kakim-to tolstobryuxam v pravitel'stvennyx kabinetax otygryvat'sya na zabitosti naroda. SSSR bol'she net! Etim ya xochu skazat, chto lyudi, a ne velikaya partiya, dolzhny vershit' svoyu sud'bu!
Chto skazhete? [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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05-Feb-2001 02:06 AM |
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Uh-uh-uh.. Nu, rebyata. Pochital ya vashi messagi -slov net.
Molodets Marinka! Zadela za zhivoe! Zastavila zadumatsa. Ya dazhe examen svoy zavtrashni zabrosil. Da nu ego! Kakoy examen, tut dela pobolee examenov!;) Nu chto skazat'. Okean emotsiy, burya chuvstv! Da i ponyatno, vse my molodye, krov' kipit, serdtse rvetsa v boy! Vse vy rebyata v kakoy-to mere pravy. Ya konechno domoy poedu - v svoy solnechny Kyrgyzstan. No ne potomu chto ya sil'ny ili superpatriot. Net, skoree naoborot. Ya prosto ne smogu zdes' vyzhit'. Ya slishkom slab chtoby zhit' zdes'. Ludi zdes' ochen' nezavisimye, a mne nuzhna podderzhka druzey v trudnoe vremya. Mne nuzhen kto-to kto vyslushaet moi problemy, primet menya posredi nochi, nakormit, napoit, deneg odolzhit. Kto razdelit so mnoy radost' i schastye. Druzya u nas doma blizhe chem bratya. Da i bez gor svoih i kristal'no chistogo vozduha ya dolgo ne protyanu, bez lyubimogo ozera Issyk Kul'- zhemchuzhiny nashey strany. Bez roditeley, brata i sester - mne ne zhizn'. A o drugih ya ne mogu sudit' - malen'ky ischo. Chto ya znayu o zhizni? NICHEGO! Malo li kakie problemy chelovek mozhet perezhit' v rodnoy strane: shantazh, podlost', korruptsiya, neponimanie, goneniya.. mnogo vsyakogo mozhet sluchitsa! Vse my vyrosli tam, znaem kak eto mozhet byt'. MOgut prekrasnogo cheloveka gryazyu ni za chto oblit', vystavit' posmeshishem pered temi kto emu dorog, opozorit' pered narodom.. A naschet druzey ne nado. Amrikantsy tozhe ludi, takie zhe kak i my. Nu kultura drugaya, nu i chto. Zdes' u menya est' horoshie druzya, oni ne vinovaty chto ne vyrosli v Asii i ne znayut chto takoe nasha druzhba i gostepriimstvo. On tozhe klassnye ludi, po svoemu. Naschet buduschego. Neploho by podumat' kak my mozhem real'no pomoch' svoim stranam. I ya nadeyus' nasha svyaz' ne prervetsa i doma. Hotya by cherez etot portal. Iskrenne vash, Nurbek. [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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05-Feb-2001 03:05 AM |
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Tarasishe |
Blin, kak by mne hotelos chtoby nasha svaz ne perervalas po priezdu v nashy RODNYE STRANY!!!! Davayte sholi poobeshayem druh druhu chto budem kontact podderzhyvat'? AAAA???
Taras [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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05-Feb-2001 04:30 AM |
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Neo |
tak, tak, tak.... that's cool though...
To Tarasiche: Chomu ya pushu rosiys'koyu? Tomu sho yakbu ya napusav ukrains'koyu - to mene zrozumilu bu til'ku ukrainci! A eto bulo adresovano ne tol'ko ukraincam a vsem! Koneshno, mojna bulo bu use english... no ruskiy vsetaki kakto rodnee.... otvetil na vopros? Dalshe, molodoy chelovek... vu skol'ko chasov spite v sutki? Esli ne sekret koneshno... mojet ya narushayu vashu privacy... Skol'ko chasov rabotaete? Tu sho takoe jrat' tol'ko odni makaronu potora razza v den'.... (meal planov u nas netu)Tu znaesh shto takoe sidet' celuyu noch' za kompom? Kogda vse uje slivaetsya na ekrane... a potom posle etogo srazu na classes... tam tol'ko dumaesh kak bu ne usnut'.... potom domoy.... vtoraya rabota.... otmahal zakonnue svoi chasu... i sidish dalshe.... delaesh rabotu svoego so called "kolegi"... internationalu narod horoshiy.... rabotayut horosho... a platit' mojna malo... dalshe bereshsya za svoy proekt... potom idesh domoy.. peshkom... eli na nogah.. rabota off campus... doma homework jdet.... prigotovit' pojrat'... neskoko chasov sna i na classes.... Konechno, inogda nahodyat pristupu zlosti.. za kakimi sleduyt pristupu pofigizma... togda spish celue sutki... posulaesh uchebu i rabotu... Ya sebya ne schitau nikakim ne patriotom ni spasitelem.... Ya prosto delayu svoe delo.... Sechas ya zanimayus' proektom odnim... v nem zanyatu ukraincu... UJE U 4 UKRAINCEV EST' DOPOLNITEL'NUY ISTOCHIK DOHODA!!!!!!! Prichem neplohogo... Podumay... 4 semyam na Ukraine uje jit' stalo legche!!! Est' za shto nakormit' detey... i eti lyudi rabotayut ne za 80 griven v mesyac.. Im uje est' za shto kupit' "valyanki" kak tu vurazilsya... I esli ya budu prodoljat' to skoro rabochie mesta budut NE U 4 A U 20 UKRAINCEV!!!!!!!!!! A eto vse jivue den'gi v ukrainu... vozmojno ya dostanu kakieto investicii... A do teh por prihoditsya ekonomit' ne tol'ko na masle k kashe, no i na samoy kashe... tak sho tavay nenado... pro kashu bez masla... Shto tam u tebya za chelovek interesuyuchiysya SP? A tu absolyutno neprav ya tebe skaju.... Mu s toboy vdvoem situaciyu tochno globalno ne izmenim, eto kajdomu ponyatno... no esli kajduy vneset svoyu leptu v obchee delo... to vse budet... a pro tusyachi tu stopudovo zagnul.... ya tebya sprashival, tu znaesh sho sechas doma tvoritsya? anyway.... rebyata... vse shto ya putayus' vam obyasnit'... ne mogu uderjat'sya shtobu ne procitirovat' Ariyu: Kto skazal shto strast' opasna,dobrota smeshna? Kto skazal v drugie vremena? Kto skazal odin ne voin ne velichina? Mir jestok i nespokoen za volnoy volna... Ne ROBEY i ne sobet ona... Da, vu kstati zametili odnu osobenost'... na postu otvechayut tol'ko te (za nebolshim isklyucheniem) kto hochet shtot sdelat' i sobiraetsya vernut'sya... Take care, Andy P.S. segodnya otpravil check na Ukrainu.... ne mnogo.. 300 dollarov... no neskol'kim lyudyam jit' stanet chut' legche... [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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05-Feb-2001 01:26 PM |
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Tarasishe |
Skoko ya splu v sutki??? Nu eto vopros boluchiy, na kanikulah mnoho, a tak... kohda kak, kohda 5 chasov, kohda celyh 7, a kohda vashe nihera!
Skoko ya rabotayu? Nu eto bratec ya tebe mohu skzat': oficialno 20-22 chasa v nedelu, neofizialno ;-) chitay stolko zhe. I pover mne, te 20 chasov katorye lehalno, rabotayutsa NAMNOHO lehche tam 1 chas toho sho neoficialno. Nashet kushat: ya na meal plan, tak sho eto namnoho lehche. No ved eto s kakoy storony posmotret! Inohda hochetsa shtoby bylo podruhomu! ARAMARK so svoyei odnotipnoy edoy ZAE**L. A zhalovatsa tebe ZHYSH, tebe zh denhi dayut, i pritom deneh mnoho dayut, na yedu vo vsakom sluchaye bolee chem dostatochno. Comment: Vo pervyh ne VALANKI, a imel vvidu "Yalynku", nu derevo takoye, Sonsa tipa, na novyi hod v domah stoit ;-) Rad za teh komu zhyt lehche stalo na Ukraine. Vot ty Ariu reshyl pocetirovat, a mne na um prishla druhaya pesna, Grazhdanskoy Oborony (sokrashenno chitat GrOb). --- ... WHO ARE YOU ? WHO AM I ? IS IT REAL TO TOUCH THE SKY ? -- NOTHING'S REAL FOR THE SKY,- SAID THE BIRDS OF PARADISE ... --- I'M AFRAID ,CAN'T YOU SEE ?!? TELL ME ,WHERE YOU CARRY ME ? -- YOU WILL SOON REALIZE ! - SAID THE BIRDS OF PARADISE . -- FLYING HOME, FLYING HOME TO THE LAND that YOU ONCE HAD KNOWN, TO THE PEACE THAT ONCE WAS TRUE FOR A LITTLE GIRL LIKE YOU. -- FLYING HOME, FLYING HOME FROM THE WORLD THAT IS MADE OF STONE TILL YOUR HEART IS LIGHT AND FREE LIKE IT ONCE WAS MEANT TO BE ... --- ...HOW CAN I GO AHEAD, WHEN MY EYES ARE BECOMING WET ? -- SAVE YOUR TEARS ! DRY YOUR EYES ! - SAID THE BIRDS OF PARADISE ... --- ...BY THE TIME IS PASSING BY SAY, HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO FLY ? -- MOON WILL SET - SUN WILL RISE ! - SAID THE BIRDS OF PARADISE ... -- FLYING HOME ! FLYING HOME ! TO THE LAND that YOU ONCE HAD KNOWN, TO THE PEACE THAT ONCE WAS TRUE FOR A LITTLE GIRL LIKE YOU. -- FLYING HOME ! FLYING HOME ! FROM THE WORLD THAT IS MADE OF STONE TILL YOUR HEART IS LIGHT AND FREE LIKE IT ONCE WAS MEANT TO BE ... ---...WATCH THE SUN ! AND HERE'S THE LIGHT ! NOW I KNOW WHAT I' VE HEARD WAS RIGHT ! -- MORNING SUN CAN MAKE YOU WISE ,- SAID THE BIRDS OF PARADISE ... Vot tak to! Taras [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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