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05-Feb-2001 10:29 PM |
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komsaid1 |
I don't anything bad even if it was "domashka", esli by dazhe tak, my pomogli sootechestvenniku (ya vsekh CIS citizens schitayu soot-mi), razve eto plokho?
No ya veryu chto eto ne domashka. Marina, good job, uznayu "the media person", you touched the souls of those who read your message, using a medium. Impressed!!! I completely agree with what X said, and I am really impressed by what Alincho and her friends did for their country, GOOD JOB!!! Menya systema obrazovaniya tozhe volnuyet, ved' kolichestvo tekh CIS-nikov kto poluchat tut obrazovanie prosto kaplya v more. No no ved' more v tselom sostoit iz etikh kapel', my mozhem pomoch' eschyo mnogom kapel'kam. Actually there are many issues that bother me, but there are too many of them to list every one of them. Wha mainly bothers me now is the education, economic situation and media in our society. And I would really like to help those other situation through the media and help the media by helping those other situations. Yours, Roxy [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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05-Feb-2001 10:51 PM |
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X_Ray |
Guys, we have a great start!
Alina, I am glad to see your input! It's awesome that you already have some experience in helping your country! Kom! We need ideas! Any! Alincho is right lets brainstom! Let's write the wildest thoughts and opinions and IDEAS! And I really want to ask all of you to POST THEM IN THE PROJECT TOPIC! PLEASE! It is a really different topic. Also it will be convenient for all of us to refer to one place with all the stuff we think of. I tried to summarize Alina's and Rukhshona's ideas and posted them in the preoject topic. Thank you for your responce!!! Vash, Nurbek. [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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06-Feb-2001 12:50 AM |
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worried |
Narod, kruto!!! Vot tak vot vse i nachinaetsya, vot tak my i pobedim v bor'be za svetloe budushee nashix stran! Mozhno ya s vami? [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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06-Feb-2001 02:35 AM |
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musliba |
mne tak jal' shto menya ne bylo tut na vyxodnyx, no ya xochu skazat' shto ya vas ochen' lyublyu, spasibo vam za to shto vy xotite domoi! ya davno ob etom dumala i pri kajdoi mysli sdes' ostat'sya mne prosto stanovitsa toshno, ya mogu ponyat', predstavit' i prinyat' eto umom, no nikak ne mogu serdcem. ya prosto vspominayu naskol'ko legche dyshitsa v kieve, daje po doroge v univer i obratno v perepolnennom tramvaye na moroze i vse takoye. i pust' daje nashi prodavschicy ne ulibayutsa tebe milo, zato oni ot dushi ne ulibayutsa, iskrenne shto-li i orut na tebya toje iskrenne kak-to po nashemu  ). ya znayu shto mne kak i mnogim ochen' nemnogo nujno dlya jizni, i ya znayu shto ya xochu shtob moi deti rosli ne egoistichnymi i bezrazlichnymi lyud'mi, a pust' i bez disney lenda i tryox shkafov igrushek na kajdogo, no v strane, gde lyudi zabotyatsa drug o druge, i esli oni znakomy to xotya by zdorovayutsa (sorry, nabolelo na campuse zadolbali zdorovatsa vremya ot vremeni, tipa to oni tebya znayut, to ne znayut, a druzei u menya nastoyaschix tut net amerikanskix, tol'ko znakomye). ne nujno vozrajat' shto u nas vsem na vse naplevat' - ne vsem i ne na vse!
ya znayu, shto ya xochu rabotat' v svoyei sofii kievskoi i provodit' tam ekskursii besplatno, potomu shto ya lyublyu etot gorod i xochu shtob i drugiye ego polyubili i uznali o nem. a escho ya veryu shto yesli ty komu to sdelayesh dobroye delo, to kogda nibud' ono k tebe vernyotsa. ya ne govoryu shto sdes' eto nevozmojno, prosto doma priyatnee delat' dobrye dela, a tut u menya ruka ne podymayetsa dat' 10 centov bomju. mojet eto poeziya, no ya chitala vse vashi messages i prosto pochti slezu vyshiblo pravdoi jizni. a sdelat' vsegda shto to mojno, xotya by svet i vodu ekonomit' (eto dlya tex u kogo oni escho est' )-grustno! da prosto byt' dobree. po moyemu vse nachinayetsa s podneseniya sumki neznakomoi babushke i ustupaniya mesta v tramvaye, i uj esli tebya eto xot' kak to volnuyet to sud'ba strany, kotoraya ne abstraktnoye ponyatiye, a eti je lyudi vokrug toje budet volnovat'. vot takoi vot vozmojno sentimentalizm i detstvo, no razve vy tak nikogda ne chuvstvovali?
lyublyu vas vasha masha [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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06-Feb-2001 03:44 AM |
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ratmir |
Ochen' krasivije slova bili skazani vishe, krasivije i mnogoobeshchajushchije. Bankiri, businesmani, ekonomisti, programeri, show-produceri etc.. Chto zh - delajte bydyshcheje. Ja priznajys' chesno, chto mne absolutno vse ravno gde zhit'. Vezde est' nedostatki. ja ne bankir i ne menedzher ja, business, economy, ne dlya menya. Est' ryad proffesij kotorim nichego na teritorii bivshego (slava Bogy) USSR nichego ne svetit. Ja ne sobirajys' otkazivatsya ot karjeri research-scientista tol'ko izza togo chto pochti vse ychenije xodyat' v potertix costymax ot "SovShwejProm" za 1980 god i jezdyat na roboty na velikax, yvilivaja ot rezvix banditskix mersedesov ( mozhet ja i oshibsya i tam sidyat xoroshije, chesnije lydi..).
Kto podderzhivaet "nashy" nayky? Amerikanskije granti.. Da-da-da.. kak bi eto ne zvychalo. Mozhna rabotat' na "oboronky" i ybivat' lydej. Znajete, Patrioti, dorogije moi, naxren mne rodina kotoraja lishajet menya mojej mechti, zastavlyajet naje.. uupss obmanivat' lydej ili ybivat' ix chtobi vizhit'. Ja sebya ni s kem ne sravnivajy , no podymajte chto bi slychilos' esli bi Nil's Bohr ili Einstein ne emmigrirovali iz Germanii. Ja ne somnevajys' - oni xoteli dobra svojej strane, strana zhe ix ne xotela, ili xotela A-bomb. Germanija ne postradala ot ix emmigracii, mir priobrel scientific upgrade, a samy Germanijy podnyali drygije.. Nashlis' robotyashchije lydi. Very chto i na Ukraine i v drygix stranax oni tozhe najdytsya. Esli vse bydet xorosho, ja obyazatel'no k vam prijedy i sdelajy vkladv v nayky CIVILIZOVANOV Strani, jesli ne vse bydet xorosho , - mne prijdetsya prijexat' do prixoda civilizacii.. i vnosit' vklad v razvitije Ukrainskoj Armii. Oj, kstati, mal'chiki, kto iz vas otslyzhil? Ax, nikto? A kto xochet? Ax, tozhe nikto? Ny izvinite, sprashivat' nikto ne bydet.. xa-xa-xa-xa-xa--xa-xa-xa-xa..... Ochen' v Vas very, toropites', chtobi moi vnyki eshche do starosti smogli bez opaski pojexat' v "centr Evropi" [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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06-Feb-2001 03:46 PM |
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X_Ray |
Rat, da idrugie kto dumaet kak on!
Nu chto do vas nikak ne doydet? NET RAZNITSY edesh' ty domoy, ne edesh' ty domoy. Glavnoe chelovekom ostatsa, sebya ne poteryat' v etom mire. Mechtu svoyu pronesti cherez vse, osushestvit' ee. Zhizn' prozhit' chtoby stydno ne bylo, ne pered lud'mi - pered soboy. Hochesh' ostatsa - ostavaysa, hochesh' domoy - prekrasno! Hochesh' drugim pri etom pomoch' - POZHALUYSTA!!! Chto meshaet vlozhit' svou vklad v usiliya drugih? Esli ubudet ot tebya, to ne nado, nikto i ne zastavit. Chto my ne znaem kak parshiva zhizn' poroy? A ved' zhizn' takova kakoy my ee sebe predstavlyaem. Mozhet tot muzhichok na velike, v potertom kostyumchike schastlivey vseh na svete? Ne nado emu ni Nobelya, ni mersov. Mozhet on znaet dlya chego zhivet i umret. Ved' esli net togo za chto stoilo by umeret', i zhit' ne stoit. A cynisma u vseh hvataet, ne nado. [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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06-Feb-2001 04:13 PM |
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Alincho |
Ei, budushchiy Einshtein i Nils, v etom to i vsyo delo, chto lyudi uxodyat i xotyat v zhizn privesti SVOI mechti. Ya znayu vse shyas budut nadomnoy smeyatsa, no pomnite etot film "Kortik" pro molodix pionerov. Pomnite Polevoy Mishe kak to govorit "Tot kto vixodit' v more dlya sebya budet plavat' v malen'koy i staroy lodke, a tot kto vixodit v more dlya naroda svoyevo i svobody, tot budet plit' v bol'shom i krasivom korable" nu mozhet ni vsyo pravil'no skazala, no moral' yasna. Mi vse otom to i govorim chtob ostavit' pozadi svoyu comfortablenuyu zhizn' i otdat' eyo za comfortabelnuyu jizn' svoix sootechestvennikov, svoix detey, da nu, dazhe svoix pravnukov. Ya lichno gotova eto sdelat' a pro armiyu i ne nachinay. V armii sluzhit' ne vsem xochetsa, no sluzhat! Rodinu zashushat' kak to nado???? Nado! I xoroshiye lyudi eto ponimayut!
Everyone is entitled to his opinion, i kak Nurbek skazal, nikto tebya nichego ne zaztavlyayet, da i prava niukogo netu. It's all your decision. XOXO Alincho PS. Rebyata u menya klassnaya idea voznikla, skoro post budu delat' v Save the World, tol'ko shyas opazdivayu. Posle urokov, ladno?? [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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06-Feb-2001 05:38 PM |
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Tarasishe |
Tak bystrenko probezhalsa po postam, i nekotorye mysli poyavilis, ne sovsem henialnye, no vse zhe mysli.
Ne budu mnoho hovorit, prosto skazhu, ili net snachala sproshu!!! Kak u vas narod zhyzn' do etoho momenta skladyvalasa??? TAkaya shema podoydet? Rodilsa, poshel v sadik, v shkolu, cherez 11 let zakonchil shkolu, ocenki horoshye, uchilsa mnoho, postupil v VUZ, otuchilsa 1-2 hoda poehal v Shtaty po ACCELzu. Uveren chto 70% zdes sidashih po takoy sheme zhyznu svoyu prozhyli! I eto prekrasno! Tak vot, sprosite k chemu eto ya? Da prosto chitaya eti posty takaya primitivnaya ideyka v holovu zalezla, mozhet byt vas ne vseh esho PO BASHKE horosho zhyzna stuknula, tak shoby pochuvstvovat kak ono, eto, shyshka ot udara bolit to! Kak ono hodit polu-zhyvym i ne ponimat kuda popal, bez mysley, idey, karoche kak zhyvoy trup. Vot popriezhali my suda, pozhyli, posmotreli sho k chemu, i uzhasno patriotizmom proynalis, kakieto zadumki poyavilis, shtoto v zhyz prevratit, kak to svoyey strane pomoch. I vse dumayut chto v nature kak to pomozhem! Hotelos by chtoby eto bylo pravdoy. No na samom to dele nicheho zh my ne smozhem zdelat, po krayney mere ya tochno nicheho ne snohu zdelat dla Ukrainy v danyi moment, i ne potomu chto ya LOOSER, a potomu choto Ukraina etoho NE HOCHET, kak eto ne paradoxalno. Lezt' iz kozhy von ili bashku podstavlat za kohoto, mne ne hochetsa, kak studenty 80h pod tanki za nezavisimist' nashyh strah kidalis. U nih byla ideya, !!!mechta!!! kotoruyu oni hoteli voplotit v zhyzn, i voplotili. No komu eto prineslo vyhodu? Da krome 'pereresovanoy' kuchki vtorosortnyh politikov, kotorye seba velikimi borcami za nezavisimost nacahli nazyvat, i kotorye vospolzovalis momentom k vlasti priyti. I chto oni zdelali s etoy studentskoy mechtoy? Oni yeyo unichtozhyli! Mnohie iz teh studentov, sehodna seba karayu, "Zachem vvazyvalsa, zachem?? Zachem pomoh Soyuz rozvalit, ved ludshe to ne stalo." Oni zh tozhe, kak my seychas, byli molodye, samouverenye, zhyli zavtrashnim dnem, dumali pro svoy narod i derzhavu-odnim slovom MECHTALI!!!!! I my vot tut MECHTAYEM! Nu pomechtayte, pomechtayte, ya s vami tozhe pomechtayu! No ved kohda domoy priedem, my zh seba uzhe super heroyami chuvstvovat ne budem, a prosto s golovoy okunemsa v bezdnu zhyteyskih problem, I UMRUT V NASHYH DUSHAH I EINSTEINY I NILSY, I HORBACHOVY I PUTINY!!!! Tak vot chem ranshe eto sluchitsa, tem budet ludshe dla vseh. I ya ochen nadeyusa chto vot v BASHKU vas vsem chem poskoree i OHREET, dla nasheho zhe obsheho dobra. A RATMIRA na shchet armii ya celikom poddezhyvayu! Skolko zdes vas otsluzhylo??? da naverno nemnoho. ALINCHA-da neuzheli ty dumayesh chto v nashyh SNGovkih armiyah soldaty kohoto zashishayut?????? Esli ty vseryoz tak dumayesh-to poydi hot s odnim oficerom pohovori, sprosi, naprimer, CHEM soldaty budut zashishat??? Da i est li vashe SOLDATY v nashyh armiyah? Esli li te kto krome metelki, shvabry, esho i avtomat hot raz v rukah derzhal??? Ya nemamalo let prozhyl sredi soldat, na base, i to chto ya tam uvidel navsehda mena ubedilo, chto nashy armii, (ya hovoru vo mnozhestvenom chisle imeya vvidu armii SNG), krome selsko-polevyh rabot, remontnyh rabot v officerskih domah, podmetaniya i myt'ya ohromnyih, neobyatnyh tualetnyh prostorov, po suti bolshe ni na chto ne hotovy, tem bolee k zashite svoih stran. Da i te kotorye hotat ih zashitit, im v ruki oryzhya i ne dadut. I na posledok vopros, vot skolko iz vas dumalo, hot odin raz dumalo, po okonchniyu VUZA zakosit ot armii?? Tolko chesno! A teper vse podumali, yesli zh ya iz armii rodnoy soboralsa to zakosit, to KAK ZHE YA DERZHAVE SMOHU POMOCH, ved poyti v armii samyi vernyi sposob pomoch derzhave-besplatnaya rabochaya sila v prinuditelnom poradke, vsehda byla i budet v cene! Tarasishe. [Brat 3: University of Pennsylvania I] |
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