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05-Feb-2001 07:02 AM
  about F1 visa...
B.MermaiD
I'm Korea,and have get B2 visa..
wanna study there,,cos it's hard to get F1 visa in Korea...
Accdentally I've checked this site...
then..after staying there for at least 2months,can I register ESL as a full-time student to get I-20...??? after then Can I continue studying graduate school there with TOEFL score???
Pls let me know as ASAP...
I'm supposed to depart from here about May.

05-Feb-2001 12:22 PM
 Re: about F1 visa...
Bob
If you can get an I-20 for an ESL program, then that would be better than coming to the U.S. on a B-2 visa and trying to change visa classification later (you'd then still have to apply for an F-1 visa the next time you left the U.S. and wanted to return to study.)

Once in the ESL program, you can get a subsequent I-20 for your graduate program, but again, its better if you can get your F-1 visa before coming here initially.

Best wishes with this.

06-Feb-2001 08:17 PM
 Re: about F1 visa...
Serge
I agree with Bob that it would be better to get an F-1
visa from the beginning if you can.

At the same time I think that students who come
from certain countries may find it easier to come
here on a different visa and change their status to
F-1. American Consulates abroad expect students
to prove that they are planning to return to their
home countries and in many cases no amount of
evidence would convince them. It's understandable
- most students from poor countries come here
with an intention to stay.

INS is much less strict than Consulates. I think it's
due to the fact that INS has to deal with the
foreigners from all over the world and judges
everyone by more or less the same set of
standards.

Tourist visa > ESL > Graduate School is one way to
become a student here. I would try not to waste the
money on ESL , though. And wait 3 or 4 months
before changing your status.

As Bob mentioned you would have to apply for a
new visa if you travel abroad.

09-Feb-2001 09:44 AM
 Re: about F1 visa...
B.MermaiD
THanx for your advice...
but I am a single and 31years old,,and it's so long to graduate school....
it's so hard to get f1 visa through I-20 from ESL also...
I have to change visa in the states, I think...
if I apply ESL after 2months there, I might get just status ,not to get F1 visa to study there??
let me know soon....

09-Feb-2001 09:47 PM
 Re: about F1 visa...
guest
Yes, you will get the status, not the visa. You will be able to stay in the US as long as you go to school and have a valid I-20 from it, up to 8 years (including 1 year of practical training). As long as you stay inside the US being in status is more important than having a visa.

In case you want to go abroad and reenter the US you'll have to apply for a new visa from your home country or from a border post in Canada or Mexico.

10-Feb-2001 11:46 AM
 Re: about F1 visa...
B.MermaiD
then..If I were in status as a student there, can I get social security number and take a test of driving liscence and so on...???

10-Feb-2001 11:17 PM
 Re: about F1 visa...
Bob
Yes. The ss number & drivers license shouldn't be a problem as long as you can prove your visa classification. The lack of an F-1 visa may confuse some of the people at the social security or driver's licences offices, but your int'l. student advisor may be able to explain it satisfactorally to them.

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